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	<title>Comments on: Time travel and the new Star Trek movie</title>
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		<title>By: OmbudsBen</title>
		<link>http://ombudsben.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/time-travel-and-the-new-star-trek-movie/#comment-11914</link>
		<dc:creator>OmbudsBen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it was fun to watch if you were careful to be 8-12 in your mind.&quot;

Well put, Dan; and thanks for the kudos, Pish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it was fun to watch if you were careful to be 8-12 in your mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well put, Dan; and thanks for the kudos, Pish.</p>
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		<title>By: Pish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the interesting reviews. Great stuff. Good luck!</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t read this if you haven&#039;t seen the movie as there are spoilers within...

I think that if you are careful to watch the movie through the eyes of an eight to 12 year old you&#039;ll be okay.  But a sci fi buff will have issues enjoying this all the way through.  Even a &quot;Trekkie&quot; who knows and likes the franchise will have issues.

First of all, the premise is build on Spock carrying a large amount of potentially galaxy destroying stuff alone in a one of a kind ship that is large enough for many more people.  He is on his own to save an entire WORLD.

But what first strikes a sci fi person is how in the world is a black hole going to be better than a supernova?!?

As the plot progresses we see a bad guy drilling into a planet in order to drop a drip of this stuff in it&#039;s core.  This is so silly.  If a black hole of any size was anywhere near a star system let alone in the middle of the planet, the planet would be destroyed.

So you can imagine a sci fi fan struggling to enjoy this movie.  The action was cool, the effects awesome, the acting pretty good and the character interaction was great.  But being based on silly and global mistakes the entire way through none of it mattered much in making it a movie a fan could say &quot;THAT WAS GREAT!&quot; to.

Spock was set on a planet or moon to watch his home planet turn into a black hole.  Well, if Spock could see that with the naked eye he would be dead but just wouldn&#039;t know it yet.  He would already be in the gravity/time shell of the black hole.

And then Scotty.  Obviously Spock is revealing to the audience that &quot;old Scotty&quot; from the 24th century future discovered how to beam people across large distances.  Because if Scotty did this while younger the whole Federation civilization would be dramatically effected.  You wouldn&#039;t have to wait to get around a planet to transport.  Perhaps they are saying that ships almost aren&#039;t needed at all.  A routing system of transporters would quickly be placed throughout the Federation.

That being the case how did &quot;future Scotty&quot; discover something that Fed scientist have been working on for almost 200 years?  This is too big a revelation for this movie...it is so striking and powerful that I couldn&#039;t think of anything else for the whole movie.

And how did young Scotty track a ship in warp and be able to make use of this new transporter equation with old and limited 23rd century equipment on such a small backwater outpost?

Anyhow, it was fun to watch if you were careful to be 8-12 in your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t read this if you haven&#8217;t seen the movie as there are spoilers within&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that if you are careful to watch the movie through the eyes of an eight to 12 year old you&#8217;ll be okay.  But a sci fi buff will have issues enjoying this all the way through.  Even a &#8220;Trekkie&#8221; who knows and likes the franchise will have issues.</p>
<p>First of all, the premise is build on Spock carrying a large amount of potentially galaxy destroying stuff alone in a one of a kind ship that is large enough for many more people.  He is on his own to save an entire WORLD.</p>
<p>But what first strikes a sci fi person is how in the world is a black hole going to be better than a supernova?!?</p>
<p>As the plot progresses we see a bad guy drilling into a planet in order to drop a drip of this stuff in it&#8217;s core.  This is so silly.  If a black hole of any size was anywhere near a star system let alone in the middle of the planet, the planet would be destroyed.</p>
<p>So you can imagine a sci fi fan struggling to enjoy this movie.  The action was cool, the effects awesome, the acting pretty good and the character interaction was great.  But being based on silly and global mistakes the entire way through none of it mattered much in making it a movie a fan could say &#8220;THAT WAS GREAT!&#8221; to.</p>
<p>Spock was set on a planet or moon to watch his home planet turn into a black hole.  Well, if Spock could see that with the naked eye he would be dead but just wouldn&#8217;t know it yet.  He would already be in the gravity/time shell of the black hole.</p>
<p>And then Scotty.  Obviously Spock is revealing to the audience that &#8220;old Scotty&#8221; from the 24th century future discovered how to beam people across large distances.  Because if Scotty did this while younger the whole Federation civilization would be dramatically effected.  You wouldn&#8217;t have to wait to get around a planet to transport.  Perhaps they are saying that ships almost aren&#8217;t needed at all.  A routing system of transporters would quickly be placed throughout the Federation.</p>
<p>That being the case how did &#8220;future Scotty&#8221; discover something that Fed scientist have been working on for almost 200 years?  This is too big a revelation for this movie&#8230;it is so striking and powerful that I couldn&#8217;t think of anything else for the whole movie.</p>
<p>And how did young Scotty track a ship in warp and be able to make use of this new transporter equation with old and limited 23rd century equipment on such a small backwater outpost?</p>
<p>Anyhow, it was fun to watch if you were careful to be 8-12 in your mind.</p>
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		<title>By: OmbudsBen</title>
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		<dc:creator>OmbudsBen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Daniel, it is a fun movie.

But I&#039;ll bet that, had they employed a real Vulcan in the scriptwriting, he&#039;d have pointed this out, too ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Daniel, it is a fun movie.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll bet that, had they employed a real Vulcan in the scriptwriting, he&#8217;d have pointed this out, too &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 04:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww...  I loved this movie !  Heck, if Mr. Spock says it can happen, it can happen.  That&#039;s good enough for me.  LOL !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww&#8230;  I loved this movie !  Heck, if Mr. Spock says it can happen, it can happen.  That&#8217;s good enough for me.  LOL !</p>
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